Comments on Grey Highlands 2024/5 Master Servicing Plan Update

February 10, 2025

Escarpment Corridor Alliance is a registered charity with a mandate to preserve a core part of the  Niagara Escarpment across South Georgian Bay and to protect it from inappropriate development.  ECA represents taxpayers who live, work and enjoy the Niagara Escarpment throughout the  Municipality of Grey Highlands, Town of Meaford, Town of The Blue Mountains, Collingwood and  throughout Ontario. 

We provide the following comments on the recommended alternatives as set out in the memo to  the Municipality of Grey Highlands (“MGH”) by its consultants dated December 27, 2024. 

Kimberley Amik Talisman (KAT) Water and Wastewater Systems 

We recommend that MGH exclude from the Master Servicing Plan any consideration of the  two proposed large-scale developments of the defunct Talisman ski hill lands which are at the  early stages of the regulatory process in any alternative adopted for the KAT Water System and  Wastewater System for the following reasons: 

1. Existing System Adequate for Current Users: The existing KAT water and wastewater systems are adequate for the current users and any likely additional Kimberley or Amik  residential users in the next number of years. 

2. Consistent with Council Direction: This option is consistent with the resolution of MGH  Council which specifically directed the consultants to not consider the subdivision  application by Beaver Valley Development Group for the defunct Talisman golf course  lands. 

3. Study Cost Would be Paid for by Current Users and Taxpayers, Not Developers Who  Would be the Prime Beneficiaries: There is clearly no need to study an expansion of the  KAT systems other than to consider the needs of the two early stage proposed  developments. Yet it would be funded either by existing users of all MGH water and sewage  systems, or from development charges paid by other developments that should be used for municipal services such as parks or improving other existing systems. Why should  development charges paid primarily by Markdale developments be used to benefit these  two Talisman developers? These funds should be used to benefit the Markdale community and its growing needs. Worse yet, the cost might be paid for by all taxpayers out of general  MGH funds. 

4. Developers Can Request Developer Funded Studies At Any Time: If the high level  development concepts are approved in the future and the developers have finalized their plans and determined the number of units and the phasing of development, either or both  can request MGH to commission a developer funded study to determine how their  identified servicing needs can be met, the cost of the required infrastructure and enter into  agreements with MGH to pay the full cost of the new infrastructure. Without having full  visibility as to what is to be proposed – rather than what might be – MGH should wait for the  developers to firm up their plans, determine through detailed studies the actual water uses  of their proposals and ask MGH to undertake a developer funded study. 

5. Development Applications are Very Early Stage – Will Not Be Finalized Until After the 5- Year Plan Horizon: There are now two development applications for large scale  developments at the former Talisman Ski Resort. Both are speculative and at the very  preliminary stages of the approval process for any actual new housing or commercial  buildings requiring servicing. Neither development is likely to obtain approval for actual  development requiring a major expansion for the KAT water and sewage system within the  5-year planning horizon of the study. Rather, both are the very preliminary zoning  applications needed to create the foundation for further applications for actual developments. For example, MGH planning staff have recently recommended a deferral of  consideration of the zoning bylaw amendment proposed by the application as many of the  reports filed by the applicant are incomplete and need revision.  

6. Size of Developments Unknown and Is Speculative: Neither developer has made any  commitment as to what they might build or when or how they may be phased. Rather, both  have tabled broad ideas of what they might do in the future. In both cases, they are  indicating that other adjacent lands will also be developed but have given no details. Until  such plans are committed to by the developers in applications that will be made in a  number of years (if ever), it is premature to do any studies on the types and scale of  servicing required. 

7. Lands Are in Niagara Escarpment Plan Area – Very Different Process Than a Routine  Subdivision Approval: While it may be the convention to study the capacity required for all  development applications made for routine subdivisions (which are generally municipally  approved), these lands are within the Niagara Escarpment Plan (NEP or the Plan), which, as  a provincial land use plan, takes precedence and provides the highest level of protection in  Ontario. Even in the most optimistic scenarios, these developments are at the very early  stages of a highly complex regulatory process. There is no reason to expect that they will  require water and sewage capacity in the next five years, being the planning horizon for the  Master Servicing Plan. 

8. NEC Comments – Proposals Are Not Permitted by Plan: Based on the preliminary  comments from the Niagara Escarpment Commission (NEC), it is clear that the two  developments, as proposed, are unlikely to be approved because they are not consistent  with the Plan and its strict requirements for the use and development of Escarpment  Recreation Area lands. The NEC has stated that both developers are required to make  application to the NEC for Development Permits. This begins a lengthy and very thorough review process that must be completed before the County or MGH can make any decisions  on the planning applications before them. Any decision by the NEC is appealable by  residents and community groups, potentially adding many months or even years to the  approval process. To date, neither developer has made an application to the NEC and it is  not known if they intend to do so. 

9. Massive New System with Current Environmental Protections Would be Required: The  current system has limited excess capacity and was designed in the 1970’s for the now  closed Talisman Hotel operation (about 100 rooms) and the Amik subdivision. The two  

proposed developments of 800 hotel rooms, the largest outdoor Nordic spa in North America and over 370 townhomes would require a new water and wastewater system to be  built. Combined, as a potential new Minor Urban Centre in the NEP, this would require  systems of approximately the size of the current Markdale systems. There is no valid  approval to expand the KAT wastewater system and the approval obtained a number of  years ago would not be approved by the Ministry of Environment again (as per its comments  on the 2017 Master Servicing Plan). A recent similar (but larger) wastewater system was  approved and is about to open in the Town of Erin. The $118 million Erin system was funded  by $90 million from the developers who benefited from it who each were required to sign a  funding agreement and post an irrevocable letter of credit well in advance of construction. While this system is larger than what would likely be required at Amik, it seems unlikely for the MGH to contemplate a capital investment of this scale and neither of the Talisman  developers have demonstrated the financial capacity to pay for a water and wastewater  system of the required size.

10. Karst Study Underway: Approval of any option concerning the Talisman lands  is premature given the ongoing Grey Sauble Conservation Authority’s Karst Study on the  upper escarpment of this property and adjacent lands. Any study now of KAT water servicing  prior to completing this study of its source area would be a waste of public property taxes  and unnecessary duplication. 

Thank you for the opportunity to submit comments on this crucial matter. 

Sincerely, 

Jarvis Strong 

Executive Director 
Escarpment Corridor Alliance 
[email protected] 
www.myescarpment.ca


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